Ep 193: Is “Martyritis” Killing Your Organization? (with Kishshana Palmer)

by Joan Garry

In our sector, time often feels like a scarce resource. You’re likely juggling countless tasks, believing that maximum productivity is the key to fulfilling your mission. But what if we’re approaching time all wrong?


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In today’s episode, we dive into a topic that resonates deeply with nonprofit leaders: the all-too-common case of ‘martyritis.’ My guest, Kishshana Palmer, brings her vibrant energy and sharp insights to discuss why we often take on too much and how it affects our leadership and organizations.

Kishshana, with her extensive experience in fundraising, marketing, and talent management, explores why leaders feel compelled to juggle everything themselves. This isn’t just about being busy; it’s about understanding the deeper issues that lead to a culture of burnout.

We’re tackling big questions: Why do we actually take pleasure in being overwhelmed? How can addressing this mindset lead us to a healthier approach to leadership? Kishshana offers five actionable steps to shift our leadership style – steps that go beyond the conventional advice.

This episode is about breaking free from the compulsion to juggle everything and instead, prioritizing self-care, wellness, and the ability to say “NO.”

Kishshana brings over 20 years of experience in fundraising, marketing, and talent management. She’s known for developing sustainable, inclusive leadership practices, ensuring a healthy and equitable workplace and lifestyle.Join us as we unpack Kishshana’s five steps to untangle from

About Kishshana Palmer:

Kishshana Palmer, CFRE is a podcaster, trainer, coach, author and keynote speaker. She is the foremost expert on the future of collaborative leadership and building thriving high performing teams. Her ethos stems from the belief that we have to build together, and it starts by looking within. She’s an evangelist in her belief that having amazing talent is the #1 competitive advantage in your business, and her focus ensures that talent – found at highest and lowest levels of the organization – can build the most vibrant cultures of philanthropy.

She is Founder of “The Rooted Collaborative” – a global learning community for Black and brown women in the social sector and host of Let’s Take This Offline: The Podcast for Everyday Leaders. When she is not starring in the Life of My Queenager (okay it’s not a real show, but it could be), she is dropping knowledge about leadership and life! She is your daily dose of Claire Huxtable with a side of Blanche Devereaux.


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