In our sector, time often feels like a scarce resource. You’re likely juggling countless tasks, believing that maximum productivity is the key to fulfilling your mission. But what if we’re approaching time all wrong?
Today, I’m joined by Oliver Burkeman, best selling author of ‘Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals.‘ Oliver challenges this mindset, urging us to embrace the limitations of our finite weeks. We discuss the fine line between procrastination and prioritization, and the undervalued role of rest in our lives – especially critical in the demanding world of nonprofit leadership. Post-pandemic, our perception of time has undoubtedly shifted, and Oliver offers invaluable insights into navigating these changes.
This conversation is a call to rethink how we view and use our time, not to squeeze more out of it, but to make our work and lives more meaningful and impactful.
- 0:00 – Open for episode
- 2:08 – See if we can’t discover and recover some ways of thinking about time that do justice to our real situation
- 2:32 – Music Intro
- 3:17 – Oliver Burkeman Bio
- 4:28 – 4000 weeks isn’t a book about productivity
- 5:11 – Why did we need another book on time management?
- 15:04 – Is thinking with the end in mind a way to strategize procrastination?
- 16:50 – Getting good at procrastination
- 19:09 – Procrastination vs. Prioritization
- 21:01 – Nonprofit leaders have a hard time figuring out things that are not 9s or 10s
- 26:49 – Nonprofit Leadership Lab Promo
- 28:58 – Does believing in an afterlife have anything to do with how we view time and how we use it
- 33:57 – Rediscovering rest and changing mindset to be accepting of rest
- 36:51 – Are you hearing people think about time differently after the pandemic?
- 40:12 – What should listeners take away from this conversation
- 45:48 – End of Episode
About Oliver Burkeman:
Oliver Burkeman is the author of the New York Times and Sunday Times bestseller Four Thousand Weeks, about embracing limitation and finally getting round to what counts, along with The Antidote: Happiness for People Who Can’t Stand Positive Thinking and Help! How to Become Slightly Happier and Get a Bit More Done. For many years he wrote a popular column for the Guardian, ‘This Column Will Change Your Life’. In his email newsletter The Imperfectionist, he writes about productivity, mortality, the power of limits and building a meaningful life in an age of distraction. He lives in the North York Moors.
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