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Nonprofits are messy

Answering the most pressing questions faced by nonprofit leaders around the world, my podcast is created for the heroic leaders in our society who commit themselves to public service – executive directors, senior staff, heads of school, development professionals, board leaders, and many more who provide service to the nonprofit sector.

Our goal is simple. We aim to find just the right expert to answer the questions on the minds of our listeners. And in so doing, we offer a conversational forum that will inform, entertain and inspire.


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Ep 170: The Top Nonprofit Sector Trends and Takeaways of 2022

with Stacy Palmer

What were your biggest takeaways from 2022? Tune in as Stacy Palmer, editor of the Chronicle of Philanthropy, and I discuss some of the nonprofit sector’s biggest headlines, trends, and takeaways of 2022.

Ep 169: When Your ED Has a Low Appetite For Fundraising

with Kishshana Palmer

Does your organization have an ED with a low appetite for fundraising? Tune in to learn how strengthening the partnership between your ED and development director can help!

Ep 168: Hamza Khan’s Recipe for Preventing Burnout

with Hamza Khan

Feeling the heat lately? You are not alone… burnout impacts many of us in the nonprofit sector. Tune in to learn best-selling author and global keynote speaker, Hamza Khan’s strategies for preventing burnout.

Ep 167: For the Love of Strategic Planning

with Robert Raben

In this episode, my guest compares strategy to love — tune in as Robert Raben and I dig deep into the topic of nonprofit strategic planning and how the right approach can help promote diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Ep 166: Uncovering New Nonprofit Funding Sources

with Ann Mei Chang

Are there nonprofit funding sources out there that are not being sufficiently taken advantage of? According to my guest, Candid CEO, Ann Mei Chang, the answer is yes. Tune in to learn more.

Ep 165: Eye-Opening Tales of a Board Nominations Committee Chair

with Daryl Messinger

Getting the right people on your nonprofit board is no easy task. Tune in to this episode to learn how one nominations committee chair helped her org build the board of its dreams!

Ep 164: A 7-Step Succession Planning Process for Nonprofits

Want to leave your nonprofit in good hands even after you move on to your next adventure? Tune in to discover the 7 crucial steps to a successful succession planning process.

Ep 163: What It Takes to Be a Successful Director of Development

with Lori Abrams

Join me for an eye-opening conversation about fundraising mistakes, fundraising anxiety, and what it actually takes to be a first-rate development director for your nonprofit.

Ep 162: Inside the Heart & Mind of a Program Officer

with Rebecca Cokley

What does an ideal relationship between a program officer and a grantee actually look like? Experienced program officer, Rebecca Cokley, joins me in this episode to answer this frequently asked question.

Ep 161: Inclusion is About More Than Diversity

with Daisy Auger-Domínguez

In this episode, author and Chief People Officer at Vice Media Group, Daisy Auger-Domínguez to talk about the best starting place for nonprofit leaders who want to dismantle racial inequity and foster more inclusivity in the workplace.

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No one should attempt to work at or lead a nonprofit (or maybe any company) without Joan! Always timely and relevant.”

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“I run a national nonprofit, large in reach and impact, but small on budget. I’ve been gobbling up resources and at times feel like I’m boing an ocean as I click through the hyperlinks on Google docs, looking for the answer on how to lead and do the right thing in a global pandemic! Joan kindly reminds the listener that the answers are within us and are core to our leadership attributes, and coaches the listener on how to focus and pivot with great suggestions and resources. Thank you!”

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“This is my new favorite podcast! Joan knows her stuff and she had a great guest who also knows their stuff! Every episode is interesting and informative. I highly recommend this podcast to anyone working in the nonprofit!”

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“I just started listening to this podcast and I have already learned so much that I can immediately apply to my job and my organization. Thank you for the extremely relevant and practical information and discussion. It has already made me see my job in a new light!”

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